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When the ruler of the 8th House or a planet in it are under aspect tension (squares, quindeciles, oppositions and some conjunctions), the horoscope suggests that there is a concern about self comparison to others, usually where the person is “trying to keep up with the Joneses.”
Comparing oneself to others can be productive. If you are an up and coming person in whatever you do„like a jazz composer in music, it is a good thing to compare what you do to someone who has been successful at it. But things are not productive when comparison to others is debilitating, making a person feel badly about themselves because their self worth doesn’t measure up to what they think the worth of someone else’s is.
captainzokit said: Hello. I really liked your blog about father issues. I was wondering about your experience with Saturn Rx involvement in Grand Trines. My daughter has a Saturn Rx in Scorpio in 5th (r. 7th) trine Neptune in Pisces in 9th (r. 10th) and also trine Sun-Jupiter conjuction in 12th (Sun r. 2nd and 3rd in Cancer, Jupiter r. 6th on last degree of Gemini). I was trying to decipher the meaning of that but it is not easy since neither Saturn, neither Neptune and neither Sun make no stresful aspects.
The frequency of Saturn Rx with Grand Trines is above average, especially in Air. Since a Grand Trine suggests self-sufficiency (in her case, emotional self-sufficiency), and defensiveness, it is the perfect mechanism for the kinds of concerns that can exist when Saturn is Rx. For example, a father causes a lot of emotional pain for the child with the Water Grand Trine. What develops from that is a closing off of oneself from others in emotional terms. The idea is, “I am not going to allow anyone to hurt me like HE did.”
My examples with Chelsea and Monroe showed stressed out Saturn Rx symbols but it doesn’t matter whether it is stressed or not. My oldest brother has two Grand Trines in his horoscope with Saturn Rx and believe me, being the first child, he experienced a lot that was horrible.
The whole point of this is to understand that these symbols in a child’s horoscope emphasizes [for the father] the need to really be aware of the importance of loving guidance coming from the father. It is typical, in the setup you have described in your daughter’s chart, for there to be a closing off of emotions, a defensiveness about them that translates to relationship challenges because of a fear of being hurt due to something in the father relationship. It is easy to prevent that by your consistent expression of emotion to her…..the hugs, “I’m proud to have you as my daughter,” and so on. I have had clients with Saturn Rx who never one time in their lives heard the words, “I love you” from their father, nor was there any kind of positive endorsement. This stuff matters more than usual when Saturn is retrograde.
Jupiter goes into Leo today. Astrology teaches that all Leos should rejoice. Let’s put some perspective on that.
Yes, Jupiter is our symbol for reward in astrology but there is a caveat that you do not see written. If you have not been working towards an end, out in the world trying to do something to make things happen, it is likely that Jupiter will cross your Leo Sun without anything in life being reflected.
Opportunity and rewards come to people who have prepared for it. It does not drop out of the sky because of the planet. I have a client who has been trying to climb the ladder in the corporation he works in. It was 2 years ago when we sat down to make a plan for the future together. The plan was for him to further his education in a certain area to make himself look more attractive and ambitious to his superiors. His Sun is at 0 degrees Leo. Jupiter is on his Sun now. He was promoted last week. Was it Jupiter that promoted him or was it his hard work that promoted him, magically reflected in astrology? It’s common sense.
If you have been “busting it,” look for an opportunity. If you have been sitting around waiting for Jupiter to hit your Sun because you think something good will “happen,” brace yourself for disappointment.
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Astrology has to also.
HOROSCOPES & LEVEL
As a fairly busy astrologer, I get to see what a lot of viewpoints are on astrology and what’s most interesting is the expectations of astrology from those who know very little about it. There is, quite often, the expectation that the horoscope is a paper symbol of who the person is as a human. The reality is that the horoscope is a symbol of what the person needs to be coupled with the things that need development.
The horoscope has no blood running through its veins. It has no heart or eyes. It does not know whether or not it is the horoscope of a crocodile, dog, human, or opening of a business. How the horoscope is used is under the control of the person, not the horoscope.
If you know astrology well enough to analyze one, please take a look with me at the horoscope shown here.
The analysis begins with the emphasis south and east. It suggests an orientation to defensiveness and self protection that is linked to being swept up in life’s events, to being pushed around, controlled, or even victimized by things out of one’s control until the day comes when one gets sick of it and starts pushing back.
The core energy of the horoscope is sensitive and idealistic with a personality presentation of that energy needing to be gracious, popular and fair. This is all expressed through a sensitive image that shows itself to be emotional and concerned about emotional security. Under normal circumstances, we are expecting this to be a person who is amenable to others because the ego needs to be fulfilled by making others happy. This idea of being fulfilled by being pleasing to others is tremendously enlarged by the fact that the Moon is unaspected. That means that it dominates the horoscope!
The Sun is part of a Grand Trine in Water, suggesting emotional self sufficiency. Pluto’s square to the mentally idealistic Sun-Mercury conjunction suggests that ideas of empowerment, perhaps in institutional circumstances, are the way into and out of being emotionally shut off from others.
Next in importance here is the position of Saturn in the 11th House, a position that requires a lot of love, concrete displays of it because of the inner feeling of being unlovable. We see this emphasized and made problematic by the squares of Mars and Uranus to Saturn. This shows a kind of tenacity about socially oriented energy-application (Mars in Aquarius) and an intensification factor working together to deal with the psychology of not being loved enough. When we add Neptune’s square to Venus and the relational idealism that it suggests, we start to get a picture of a sensitive person who needs to be popular with others but somehow has to work through feelings of not being very loveable. That is the short and long of what we have here. But the real life reality is quite different.
This is the horoscope of Josef Mengele. He was a Nazi doctor in Hitler’s concentration camp. As I say that, your perception of things has immediately changed. You didn’t expect it.
Mengele was alleged to have personally killed some 2000 people and oversaw the deaths of over 200,000 prisoners. He fled once the war was over and was sought the world-over until he was finally found in Brazil and died shortly thereafter. He was a monster, not a sensitive person seeking the approval of others.
How do you put the reality of this person together with what the horoscope suggests? YOU CAN’T! There is no way to look at a horoscope and suspect such a thing.
Though this example is extreme, it demonstrates the reality that there can be a wide schism between a person’s reality and the horoscope that represents them. So if you talk to an astrologer and something is said that doesn’t fit you, it’s not astrology. It is that you have taken a different path because of something in your development that has changed things.
I have an example on this blog of a woman I had a consultation with when I lived in South Africa. She was an astrological twin to Hillary Clinton but she had lived under the apartheid system and was not allowed to have an education. The Clinton horoscope is rich in academia, internationalism, law and more. Those are the POTENTIALS that are shown but reality controls things, not a horoscope.
The horoscope is a wonderful, beautiful guide but please don’t be misguided about what a horoscope represents. Don’t make it any more or less than what it is.
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This is wonderful to see, wonderful to read. Astrology is ever so wonderful but loses a lot of its lustre and greatness because of its practitioners.
There is too much of a focus on fate in connection with planets and not enough emphasis on how helpful astrology is as a tool to help self-development and evolution. That’s why this article is so refreshing to see. It shows astrology outside of the crystal ball, incense burning in a darkened room stereotype.
Please remember that there is a lot in astrology. It is as vast as a phone book for the state of New York would be. You will be tempted to use everything you come across. Avoid that tendency because at least half of what you will see will be of no practical use to you.
This is the epitome of the Moon in Aquarius.
It is hard to come up with anything as great as astrology is that has been so badly maligned. Astrology is a mainstream subject of ridicule. This perception has everything to do with its practitioners.
Just as a gun is a bad thing in the hands of the wrong person, so is astrology. Astrology becomes a bad thing when the person practicing it thinks that they can exert some kind of power and control over a person’s life. Many, many people get into astrology for that very reason.
I had a lecture on CRITICAL ILLNESS last night for an astrology group in Sewell, New Jersey. Because of the topic, I was asked the question, or, rather, was told about an occurrence. Two people there said that they were told by an astrologer some 7 months ago that they were going to die in 3 months! I could have chewed on nails when they told me this.
WE CANNOT PREDICT DEATH FROM A HOROSCOPE! WE CANNOT! There is no astrologer who, right now, could walk into a hospital, do the horoscope of a child and say, “This child is going to die on May 14th, 2069.” No astrologer can do it. It is not possible. It is not for us to know. The universal Godforce would not be that cruel.
What we can do is make common sense projections ahead of time. Let’s say that an elderly person is already quite ill. We look ahead in that horoscope and we see that transiting or Solar Arc Pluto will cross the Ascendant in a year. It would be reasonable for us to presume that the great change ahead for the person could be their demise. But at the same time, it could mean a miraculous recovery. Whatever the case may be, the only time death can be projected is when it makes sense based on the present reality.
I told my wife some 5-6 years ahead of time that I would probably lose my mother at some point between ages 58-60. Why? The Saturn Return usually correlates with major structural and concrete changes in one’s life. I knew that when I was 58, my mother would be 95. We don’t live forever and every day that one is alive in their 90’s is certainly a blessing. The closer you get to being 100 years old, the greater the chances are for death. That has nothing to do with astrology. It is common sense. So, when you put together the indications in MY chart for structural changes ahead, coupled with the age of my mother, it was an easy projection to make. Even still, she could have lived beyond my Saturn Return and it could have been something else. It’s just that in my particular case, her death made the most sense. But you don’t walk up to someone, see an astrological measurement and tell them that they are going to die. You just don’t do that.
If someone comes at you with death talk, humiliate them! Produce the horoscope of someone that you know of…even a celebrity (remove the name) who has passed away and ask them to when that person died. The point will be proven quick, fast, and in a hurry.
The purpose of astrology is to help people! I help people by using a horoscope as a guide and I help people by teaching them astrology so that they can then help people. Telling someone that they are going to die is about as far from using astrology beneficially as can be. We can talk about the importance of the affairs of death in one’s life. For example, a funeral director might have a loaded 8th House. The “death” element of the 8th House is about the importance of THE AFFAIRS OF DEATH in your life, not YOUR death.
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The Soul’s Journey - Edgar Cayce’s Cosmology: For those of you who are on the reincarnational side of the fence, and have enjoyed Edgar Cayce, this video should be pleasing.
The Cayce readings often included mentions of souls in between incarnations having resided in other realms, on other planets. There are brief descriptions here of what those influences are. The trick is in knowing which one pertains to you. That planet is usually prominent in your present horoscope. I know, for me, the influence is dual…..Uranus and Neptune.
I tend to keep this topic out of my astrology but do think along these lines in the overall of life. The important message in the end is my soapbox message…..YOU ARE NOT A PAWN OF A FATE DELIVERED BY THE PLANETS!
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This is a debate between two astrologers over modern vs. Classical astrology.
It’s like the difference between a medical doctor and a naturopathic doctor.
It opens with the singular statement that Classical astrology underlines or underscores the idea that your life is in the hands of planets. You are a pawn of a fate delivered by planets. I don’t know about you but when I go to the bathroom, it is because I need to go, not because a planet makes me.
"New" is always difficult. Look at all the social problems that occur because of it.
Liz Greene: How we view life is how we read charts - Astrodienst -
I have written quite frequently on this blog about how astrology has to change with the times. This suggestion, at least in part, is what this detailed article states.
I don’t know if you watch The Game of Thrones or not. If you do, imagine what it would have been like to have a session with an astrologer during those times. What would not have occurred is a statement like, “You have Mercury in Cancer. You need to think and communicate emotionally.” Those kinds of thoughts were not reality during those times. What is more likely to have heard is something like, “You will be killed when Mars transits your 8th House.”
In a hundred years from now, what we refer to in 2014 as modern astrology won’t quite cut it. Other things will have developed in society that have to be addressed via astrology, music, medicine, technology, art, etc.
Things don’t stand still in the universe. Astrology can’t either.